• 13 Mar 2009 /  Uncategorized

    More research has revealed finally, some helpful information. Apparently in this world of political correctness, no one wants to come right out and say this or that boat really sucks. I guess I can understand the reluctance; no one wants to be sued. So barring lack of real facts, everyone (even most reviews) shy away from the it sucks ruling.

    Well that attitude makes it very difficult for newbies, such as myself to get a grasp on what to look for in a boat. Sure, I know how to estimate how much room we might need. I have an idea of how we might use the boat (and thus the types of boats we are looking at). But barring that I need a 40+ foot semi displacement or no displacement boat, that is really all I know. And guess what, everyone making boats about make boats that fit this class. Sure there seem to be a few big players out there (eg. carver, Brunswick, SeaRay and they are sold all over the US. But what even distinguishes these boats from one another. How do we know which one is the Honda and which is the kia?

    Finally one website I found stepped out completely on a limb. This guy, David Pascoe, speaks the plain truth and lots of it. He is a surveyor. Surveyors are used to review the boat, after the buyer is ready to purchase. Sort of and odd way to do things, but there it is. The buyer pays the surveyor to review and assess the boat, only after the seller has decided on the boat.

    Anyway David has been collecting data over the last 20+ years about the boat surveys he has been conducting. So, his reviews accomplish 3 things for me, 1) he rates used boats, 2) he gives an indication of quality boats construction, and 3) which manufactures are concerned at all about quality.

    I have only read through a portion of his website, but this is what I have learned thus far. Now mind you, his reviews are for used boats, and the information on his website is about 5+ years out of date, but here is what is there.

    1) Carver of the 1990s was a Ford of the ’80s. The quality and consistency sucked, big time. These boats would not last a few years seaside. Most were freshwater buys and even then, after years of sailing, they were leaky, moldy, barely fixable messes.

    2) This class of boats seems similar to the compact car set. No one gives a damn about how shabbily is constructed because they know the users will rarely put the boat to any use other than a floating barge just off the beach.

    3) trawler class (semi displacement and displacement hull) boats inherently seem to be better built, since the manufacturers know the boat may actually be sailed somewhere. 

    4) modernization and style in the boat world (for this size boats) seems to equate with cheezy construction. Best looking boats, have worst ratings. They value flesh over form and additionally think the buyer will not know the difference.

    This is a big blow for us. We are back to square one, on boat choice. Since we can not obviously pick a boat that suits our comfort needs, but wont sail. LOL. That makes no sense, and in this boat world. That is they way things seem to be shaping up. Back to more research.

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  • 04 Mar 2009 /  Uncategorized

    There are a lot of models of boats out there. You might recall me doing a cost analysis on a particular Silverton yacht. The Silverton is one of many out there. In fact, for yachts in our size range (38-47′) there are over 50+ manufacturers. This page details a list I found out there.

    Some are manufactured outside of the US, a lot are here. Either way, some come here. The fact that we are looking for a used boat means that if some diligent soul has already ordered one of these beauties and managed to get it to the mainland, we can evaluate it for our purposes.

    Main brands we have lately been discussing are: Carver, Meridian, Silverton, Formula, Silverton, Cruiser and Four Winns. All of these guys are made here. We also like a few other brands not from here Absolute, Cranchi, Sealine, Lagoon Power ( a cat). We keep being drawn to boats with 3 criteria: flybridge, aft cabins, pod drives. While we are sure we want a newer boat (since 2002) and sure we prefer a fly bridge, the other stuff might just be gravy. We like the aft cabin idea, but also know we are not going to be using that extra room much. But the aft cabin boats tend to have wider beams and more room throughout the rest of the boat as well

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  • 04 Mar 2009 /  boat info

    Tis the season for financial distress. Housing markets are plummeting and lots of people across various sectors are getting laid off or fired. Companies that were on the brink of failure have failed, some like Circuit City and Linens n Things, never to return.

    Amidst  all this tragedy are little bright spots. This is apparently the land of much opportunity, especially if you have much money. So, as the housing market tanks (today we found out that more than 40% of the population owns a house that is underwater), there are deals to be had. Foreclosures are at a record high, so guess what, now is the time to buy. And, notably, the house does not go first. If you are laid off and have to cut expensive, all those other toys must go as well. And in this society, sometimes those toys are plentiful.

    So what does that mean? Well boats! Most boats are toys for folks, not residences. People use them on the weekend as a true leisure toy. And if bad times means out with all the toys, boats will be effected, and they have been. There are reams and reams of lists of boats for sale, for auction, for almost give away. But, we are just entering the boat sailing season. It is still March, most people don’t give their boats a second thought until April (at least this far north). What this means is that those reams of lists will grow. By the time the summer comes, there will be more for sale. And more for sale means the prices will be good.

    That’s right I said it. The prices for boats will be good, possibly great. Because of all the unfortunate people who must forgo their expensive toy in lieu of their expensive house, boat prices will be great. We are already seeing the 400k boat selling for more that 30% its price. Some are thinking we will see deals south of 50% pricing.

    How does that affect me and my aspirations to buy a live aboard boat? Well it means I might actually be able to afford one. ;-)

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  • 20 Feb 2009 /  Uncategorized

    A cameraman is the best of worlds for a live-aboard boat. It is comfortable, fuel efficient, and stable. AND EXPENSIVE.

    I ran some numbers the other day. Which by the way is an excellent idea for figuring out your potential expenses. More about that in another episode.

    What we did was select a boat and run its numbers. A few of the books I have talk about how to estimate your expenses. It includes things like periodic and unexpected repairs, fuel costs, docking and registration fees, etc.

    Well with Cat specs looking like the data below and monohulls like previous specs I have provided, one might think a Cat would surely balance out. And potentially, how do you estimate comforatablity (I guess its a lot like drinkability, LOL – you cant).

    So, Cats are lighter and as a result use less gas with smaller engines. And gas is a huge deal, when most boats are getting only 1mi/gallon (if you are lucky and then only at bicycle speeds -15mph). The Cat can ride to the rescue at 22mph and 3mpg while doing it. Gas of 6000 mi goes from costing $10k/yr for a mono hull to $6k/yr for a Cat.

    Average cat specs for a 37-48ft, 2004-2008, Cat:

    • beam: 16-22
    • LOA: 36-47
    • engines: 250-300 twin diesels
    • water: 200 gal
    • gas: 400 gal
    • draft 2-3ft
    • top: 28-29
    • cruising: 17 22kn
    • weight: 22,000-29,000

    So, the fuel really is a big deal. BUT, the CAT is a large boat. So large in fact, that it might need special slips at some harbors. And of course, you will be charged for the privileges. The figures I have seen say 1.5x cost of fees for a monohull in the same class. Additionally, the Cats cost more. So your principal payment is more.

    What this boils down to in my spreadsheet was an extra $400 per month due mostly to the extra slip and mortgage that was not then offset by the savings in gas. Too bad, I like the Cats. Even if modern taste doesn’t seem to have impacted this particular class of boats. But even bad taste doesn’t impact comfortablity. At least I don’t think so. ;-)

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  • 18 Feb 2009 /  boat info, Uncategorized

    A cat, as a catamaran, is affectionately known is a multihulled boat. Pretty much up until now our research has centered around monohulled 35′+ yachts. These boats have specific characteristics. The list of them might look something like:

    • beam: width of the boat
    • Loa: total length of the boat
    • engines: typically 2 either diesel or unleaded running from about 225HP each
    • water capacity: the amount of water the boat can carry
    • gas volume: the number of gallons of gas the boat can carry
    • draft: how much of the boat is below the water line.
    • top speed: often expressed in knots, this is the speed the boat would do if you floored it
    • cruising speed: this is the sweet spot of the boat for cruising.
    • weight of the boat

    The way it works then is that for most monohull boats of cruising class A or B made from 2005-2009 of this size (35-45′) these are the generalities (if you will):

    • beam 13-16′
    • LOA 36-47′
    • engines: diesel 250-400 hp twins
    • water: 100 gallons
    • gas: 300 gallons
    • draft: 3-3.5ft
    • top speed: 28-29kn
    • cruising: 17-22kn  (not including Trawlers)
    • weight: 25k-44k

    Now as to classification, there are ratings that say what the boat is good for. However, most Americian produced boats, seem to not list this information readily. Im not sure why this is, but all the Euro boats have this info up front.

    • A- is a blue water boat, can go anywhere and do anything
    • B – coastal cruiser
    • C- fresh water only, rivers…

    The other D and E, I cant recall and don’t much look at those boats.

    Even to the casual observer, you might note then that A class boats, might be a bit more costly. In fact, that is the case. Specifically, there are a number of specific types of boats that easily fit this class.

    Now people buy boats for lot of different reasons. Here are some of the classes then of the boats by purpose:

    • Fishing
    • Cruising (sport and motorboat)
    • Blue Water
    • Speed

    Now, what we are looking for is a live-aboard. In fact, some of the cruising, fishing, blue water boats, all fit the live-aboard category.  However, when one comes to space our opportunities are getting limited. Refer back to the definitions above for beam. Beam (along side LOA) basically indicates just how much room you will have when you want to use the spaces below deck. Like how much storage, how much bathroom space, how much bed room space. So, the holy grail is mucho beam.

    BUT.. think back to your rubber duckie days. A monohull can only be so wide before it becomes too heavy, too deep, or requires more more length. All of which, are not good. BUT.. a multihull, well we can do things there. We can add a hull, put a bridge bridge between the hulls and resulting in more BEAM, while keeping a similar draft, and the same boat lengths. The result is a more stable boat in calm waters, more roomy cabins, a shallow stable draft; this oddity of the ocean is a catamaran.

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  • 11 Feb 2009 /  boat info

    A while back, BF sent me a link to a job opening posted in the US Virgin Islands. Now there are 3 islands in the USVI: St. John, St, Croix, and St. Thomas. Actually, there is at least 1 more small one, but I guess no one counts that. Water island is off the cost of St.Thomas, but hmmm..well whatever.

    Anyways, they have a university system, seemingly like other states might have. Both the universities on St. Croix and St. Thomas belong to UVI (University of the Virgin Islands). So the job description for professor of Educational Technology appeared there. BF and I visited USVI (St. Thomas) for one week in November. It was his first time on the island, I had been there multiple times. We had a great time, enjoying the weather touring the island, and laying in the sands. When we got back from paradise the weather in Chi plummeted. At some point during the Chi winter cold snap (which is really inaccurate, a snap implies it is extraordinary. Anyone who has been in Chi long enough knows its damn cold in the winter. Some colder than others, and this was cold, but last year was colder for longer I think). So, Chi hit -35F. BF text me saying that the temperature difference between St. T and Chi was a full 100F difference on that day. Shortly after that the boat ideas started springing about. He sent me the link not too long after that.

    Last night I finished the submission for the position So I am crossing my fingers. It will mean that my PhD will be on hold for a bit, but worst things have happened. I am done with all of my credits at IIT, so it would really just mean I need to do a thesis to get it a wrapped up. (That is if I don’t transfer).

    So, I just wanted to note that, I applied. My part of the bargain with BF has been fulfilled. I might have income to afford our boat dreams. How nice would that be, if in a year from now, the blogs I write now fulfill  a niche for others in this same place. Wanted to be on the water, and trying to source as much information about the process as possible. I hope these rantings will be eventually a book that will help the motor boat enthusiasts out there, because right now, we only have sailors to rely on.

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  • 11 Feb 2009 /  boat info

    Ok so if the plan is for the boat, how do we best get all the ducks in a row. If the end game is a live aboard boat for at least 6 or more months out of the year, how do we do it.

    Well last weekend, I had an idea. A while back ago I purchased 3 books about boats. By there way there seems to be a plethora of information about sail boats; classes, books, blogs, etc. But not that much information about motor boats. I’m not sure what that all means in the scheme of things, but what it has meant to our search is that all of the books I purchased (while purported to be about boats in general) really had its roots in sailing. Therefore, some of the information we have now might not be as accurate as we might hope, but what’s a girl to do?

    So .. back to last weekend. I got the idea that we pick a boat from yachtworld.com and claim it as our own. Do a price breakdown like we own it. And just see how outrageous our expectations for expenses are or aren’t. Also, since we had a good idea of the type of boat we wanted to go with, our idea was much more easily implemented. AFT cabin baby!

    So we found a lovely 2002  Carver 44 for $199,000 and began the process. We used Google docs (who me.. use  the web, naw!) In it we listed the what the mortgage like look like, what gas might be for the year, taxes, fees, down payments, estimated repairs and the like. Most of the estimates were readily available in one or more of the books I had already purchased. We broke the expenses up to reoccurring and annual. Then I divided the annual expenses by 12 months, to see what it would look like on monthly granularity.

    In the estimates we included BEST-CASE-SCENARIOS (ie. docking fees in a downtown Chi marina at the most expensive location there is, transporting the boat 1 way from Miami to Chi yearly, hauling and painting the boat at least 1 per year, emergency repairs, upgrades, and $10,000 of gas.) The bottom line was the total expense for the boat was $4k a month. (WOW that looks just like my failed condo experiment, LOL) The only thing that did not get included is a single one way sail back to the original location, or truck back. That haul cost was $3500, so we would either need to add that, or to figure the repositioning cruise price.

    This makes our boat dreams, well within the realm of doable! Of course, it would take 2 of us to manage. AND we couldn’t be supporting another residence, but that was the plan anyway. Also, we wanted the boat to in some ways be a money generator when in Chi. So, if say we dock in Chi for 6 months, and we can make $10 or 12k over the summer, that would more than pay for the expense of having it in Chi for the summer. The way we make money on that end is still being investigated.

    Now for BF, the question becomes, how much do we currently spend on a house. My condo is obvious that the boat is CHEAPER. As my condo alone (without repairs, furniture, fun or adventure) is $4k/mo. But for BFs house, his mortgage is low, his expenses are few, but it is worth looking to see how something like that compares. The results of that comparison will be discussed later.

    For now, it seems that boating is cheaper than living downtown, and probably in the long run, a lot more fun.

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  • 09 Feb 2009 /  boat info

    Ok so this weekend we let our fingers do the walking. We pulled up a google search showing any marinas in the area. Since we live near one of the largest freshwater bodies in the world, this was not something that would yield zero results. But we wanted to fnd a place that might have boats we could see. Who might have thought you could just drop in and check them out. Well why not?

    So our fingers walked up and down the google search boating marinas (with some motorcycle shops mixed in, Huh?) We saw Basa’s, we had visited them a couple of weeks back, when the entire area was under a blanket of tundra, and the air outside was -20. Today however, it was a balmy 40F, it was a day for no coats and brave soles in shorts. We found one in Dolton. Well that is a bit of a trek, but hey that is what cars are for. We put in a ring and got a receptionsist. I aksed after thier closing hours, as we had ascertained earlier, these boat shows can shut shop as early of noon on the weekends during this season. She rather unchearfuly informed me 4pm.

    We struck out at noon, after the BF took a long look at the directions. It took 3 HWYs and a scary section of town to put us outside of a landfill, with little pipes to burn off the released gasses. Thankfully, it wasnt burning today. A small sign said, marina left. After passing it we backed up down the lone stretch of road and turned down a gravel drive toward a disappearing turn. Hmm.. Then as we turned the corner, the boats came into view. Large ones 50+, wrapped in plastic, all on blocks, hundreds all sizes just around the bend. Literally littered and almost stacked on top of each other. With barley walking space between them. And there were buildings, multiple ones. Like large warehouses of metal, and possibly more boats.We turned into the gated yard with boats everywhere, we followed what looked like a drive to a trailer, that must be the ‘office’.

    Just outside of te office was a pond, where clearly boats were launched. It had large boat launching stuff.. near it. I noted, we should lock the car door.

    We entered the trailer thgouth the front and was greeted by silence. The walls were decarated with lists of boat offerings. A small TV silently played CNN. After a bit an elderly lady appeared through the corridor. She said " Hi, you must have called earlier about our hours? I was like, "ya" She asked our names cheerfylly enough and told us that James had just stepped out for lunch and would be returning shortly. Would we mind waiting. She offered us coffee and water and encouraged us to browse th boat literature and the listings shown.

    We sat in comfortable chairs staring at silent CNN talking jovially about more bail out drama. Its amazing what you can find out from watching TV without the sound. BF browsed the room like he was stalking prey. Looking at all the artifacts of prior kills. There was a huge key rack just behind an empty counter. The rack covered almost the entire back wall. Harsh lights shined and bounce off of all the random assortment of keys. In walked James, just as CNN cut to more congressmen mouthing whether or not they supported the upcoming bill.

    James was a age-deceptive man, with black curly hair worn closely cropped. He was lean, well proportioned and was about 6ft tall. He wore comfortable clothes in the business casual fashion. He looked like he might be 22, but the silver flecks in his hair at his sideburns indicated he was at least 30. The ease at which he sported his wedding ring, indicated he had been married for quite some time. Ok, maybe he is 35. He gave us a bright smile and asked our names. Introduced himself and welcomed us. He wanted to know how we found them, why we were there and all the assortment of questions you might ask someone who drops in out of the blue. Like well nice to see you but what do you want type of questions.

    Of course we go though our song and dance about how we don’t have a clue. We are all new to this, not sure what we want or how we want it or who we are.. blah blah blah. Knowing full well we have been researching for the past few weeks and months and have a least a small idea. But for some unwritten reason, both BF and I are unwilling to divulge the amount of research we have been doing on this topic to anyone but ourselves. So we feign complete ignorance, but confess to going to the boat show a couple of weeks back.

    Cheerfully, James begins to rattle on about the boats we could see. We told him some of the ones we remember from the show, and he starts off in search of keys. Then the place become, all of a sudden a beehive of activity. It was like someone threw a switch.; and all the equipment comes on. All of a sudden people start coming in the door. First one set, then another, then another. Some leave, others come, Some leave. Others stop to chat. All the while James is searching out keys. BF and I stare at CNN and quizzically look at all the new comers.

    One of the bunch manages to corner James in an office while he is still searching out the last key set and materials for us. They take up a discussion about birds. Apparently, the birds in the area have been dive bombing the boats. And there are hundreds of birds and all the outdoor boats are being bombarded. James assures the boat owner it is not just his boat, but a lot of owners (apparently birds cant discriminate from the air that they should only poop on 32 footers). James assures the new man that they are planning to get a wholesale cleaning going, but they don’t know what to do about the birds overall. The boat owner tells James he’s going to clean today. James hustles him out of the door as soon as he can, and grins at us with keys in his hands. In walks another customer, James lets this one know he will need to call him, as he doesn’t want to keep us waiting any longer (wise man :-) . The new customer smiles, takes the hint, and asks if he has his cell. James who recognized the customer on sight assured him he had all his contact info and he would ring him directly after this. In fact, tome to think of it, James knew everyone by name as they came in the door. Later he commented about how he hadn’t seen a few of them since late last season. He must have a good face-name combo going on in his head. And I would just bet, that face-name combo thing is also tied to boat size, and whether or not they paid in cash, LOL.

    Finally, we get in the truck and are headed to 1 of the 5 buildings on the premises. After a shuffle of keys and the retrieval of the ladder from the truck we are walking in semi darkness, ducking under bows, walking under sterns, shimming underneath boats on blocks, and walking through an area practically crammed with boats. I ask him how do they get the boats in here so close (with only a few feet to spare). Lost of hydraulics, he replys. Our first boat is in the rear of the building. A well placed ladder leads us to the swim platform. We wipe our wet shoes on a towel, duck under a host of plastic covering and enter the Sea Ray 44.

    The cabin layout is one John and I like, full bed in one and den in another. James starts to tell us about the difference with sport boats and other and power boats. Something we had been getting a handle on recently. This was a sport, for local cruising, weekend stuff.. Not long term time. There would be some things missing like larger roomy spaces, showers, full refrigerators, washer/dryers, etc. Sports were designed for the weekend boat warrior.

    The next layout we looked at another sport but larger. It ws not much different. Sport. Bigger boat- A bit more roomy but spaces  were laid out the same.

    Then after a jaunt to another location, another trek thru muddy water and melting ice (but this time without the dog poo), we came to the Carver 446 Motor yacht . This was like walking into a castle comparatively. The living room (ok ok, salon) was very spacious. Like one you might have at home. On this one you walked in no steps. The galley was down a bit, with a breakfast eat in area. There was a full refrigerator and lots of ample space in other areas.

    This was one of the first AFT (in the back) cabins we had seen. James was explaining that these boats, allow for more room due to this configuration and are far more comfortable as live aboard.

    Our last few boats of the day consisted of a fly bridge and Cruiser company boat special. The Cruiser while very nice, did not have an aft cabin, but this boat had all the crazy amenities, like a swim platform that raised and lowered and a satellite TV hookup, a $40k and $5k add-on aftermarket respectively.

    At the end of the day, we walked away with lots literature, and a better understanding of what we were interested in and where we might be going with this. Although there were still a TRILLION questions to be resolved, at least one answer we knew. The aft cabin was a definite a keeper.

  • 03 Feb 2009 /  boat info

    Well, its been a while… But perhaps less writing means more thinking. Well, just perhaps.

    Last weekend I went out to the Simply Sail… Sorta Sail.. or Silly Sail.. Whatever it was a sailboat show. This one was held at Navy Pier, waayyyaaa down at the end. Who knew there were rooms down that far. I had never been inside on the pier that far down. Anyway, the sail show cost 12$ per and was a huge open space with sailboat vendors and other sailing related businesses scattered throughout the venue.

    We saw our first boat just inside the entry way. It was a sexy sleek thing, that had steps leading up to an entry from the side of the ship. With no one else there but a single guy on his cell phone standing on the bow, it was a good first trip. We hurriedly took off our shoes eager to set foot on the deck. At first glance, she was like any other ship we had been on at the previous show. She had a deck, a swim platform, a hatch leading to hidden areas. But our first foot on the deck told a different story. Climbing onto the boat from the side, put our first step on a couch, and the next on to the deck. A quick walk to the stern (note now I can recall some of the terms), reveals a very slim swim platform. In fact, the word platform might indeed be misleading. A swim step might be more accurate. Where other powerboats typically had enough room to stash a dingy or skedoo, this one was a slim excuse for swimming. At about 1 maybe 2 feet past the end of the boat, I couldn’t even fathom using it to just go swimming from. And now I understood why the aft part of the boat was always called the bridge. Low and behold there was steering here. A large steering wheel, akin to a throwback from Cap’tn Hooks days. Next to the wheel was a u-shaped area for sitting. (Note, I said next too). You were apparently supposed to be standing when you were actually piloting the boat. Hmmm..The seating was comfortable (if you were sitting for only a few minutes). Without cushions the entire area was plastic.The steering wheel (Im sure its called something else., LOL) and its console with some controls is at te opening of this U aft of the boat.

    Next we head down below. But, something is awry, the deck is curved just at the entry way to down below. I am completely perplexed. I mean really curved, So that your foot really couldn’t find flat purchase. In fact, the steps leading down, were also curved. They were carved of wood and curved. Hmm..

    After a careful trip down (descending like you might go down a normal set of stairs) we enter the salon. It is completely decked out in wood like materials. None of that laminate stuff here, and not much glass either. It was very enclosed. We peeked at the head and the berth(s). The berths were normal powerboat sided, but the head, was one of those shower combo ones. But this one had a plank of wood that was hinged and on top of/ over the toilet. Like you might sit when you shower, but not on the toilet itself. The galley was tight. BF and I brushed shoulders trying to pass each other. Additionally, it contained a large pool presumably for a later sail to be attached up top. The refrigerator in the ship was not at all a landlubbers. It was more like one of those top freezers. There was a top and a door to the 3 ft model. You could put items in through the counter or bend and open the door. Hmmm..And oddest of all was the stove. It was a real stove. It had gas burners and an oven. Up untill now (in about 99% of powerboats) the stove had been electric, and no oven was an any of them. They mostly had those convection microwaves, capable of performing both functions.

    Then suddenly our trance of all the new oddities was broken as someone else descended the steps to where we were. But wait! they are coming down backward, holding rails as they come. Hmmm.. After that we emerged from the quarters and returned to the deck. From there we looked forward and noted no layout areas. But there were lots of places to hook things. And the deck was suspiciously absent of sails, but you could see where the mast might go.

    We had to sit on deck for a minute to take it all in.

    Up until now, I had read about heeling and how when you are under sail the boat is at an angle. We had read about filblets or fillets or whatever the little bumpers are on counters to keep food from sliding around. We had read about a method to secure the cook during sailing so she or he doesn’t go bouncing about while under way. We had read about people nailing down their plants so they don’t move at sea. But up until this time, did we really understand how important that was in a sail boat. I have been on a few boats, fishing, driving and what not. They rock a bit, especially with rough waters or when trying to do 35 knots. But the boat on plane was still relatively stable. Apparently on heel is another thing. This sailboat and all its provisions were to keep the crew from being bounced about. (Well except for the GAS stove, now that is a mystery. Perhaps its like those stupid gps in some cars that you cant use while you are driving. What a dumb idea, but that’s a diatribe for another day)

    So our first sailboat viist was revealing and quite certainly not our cup of tea! There was no place to RELAX with a sea breeze in your hair. All the places above deck seemed uncomfortable or work spaces. No swim platform, no cushions, and no layout spaces! Its camping all over. And I don’t think roughing it is what either of us had in mind. But our journey, at least at the show had just begun. Perhaps this boat, was an outlier- an oddity among others. We pressed on.

    After 5 more boats, we found 5 more of the same. Hmm.. Well at least we know that sailing and sailboats “Aint my bag baby!”

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  • 26 Jan 2009 /  boat info

    So armed with an empty purse and a few dollars in cash we went to the show. It was held in the same location at McCormick as the auto show, just a lot smaller. We checked our multiple coats and other junk so we could walk unobstructed into the various displays. After a quickie trip to the potty, we spotted our very first yacht. She was huge! 42 ft and looming near the ‘womans’ sign. After my commune with nature I came out to find John waiting most patiently at the side of the boat. His grey green eyes expectant. Together we took the stair to the platform in order to enter the boat. (This platform we later found was called the swim platform, in a nutshell it allows you to swim/dive/waterski from the stern of the boat. It is flat platform some of which contain a little texture to prevent slippage.)

    This boat was a beauty, long sweeping lines, gleaming in the indoor light. You could almost picture yourself on the bridge maneuvering her out to crystal waters. And then the bubble of illusion burst when BF couldn’t stand up in the saloon. LOL. He is my honey but he stands a mere 5’7. As I watch him bow his head to enter the deck, I saw just how easily one could be caught up in the moment by beauty and not by function. The head (bathroom of the boat) had one of those odd showers with just a hose and now shower stall. You were meant to shower and potty all at once apparently. Not to mention me and my wide hips had to turn sideways to enter the head. Well, reality comes crashing down. We were not going to just be able to pick any boat, as not any boat would obviously due.

    The master-bed room (berth) was a complete joke. There was little room for 2 to be inside the room, must less on the bed. After tugging a bit we figured out the opening mechanisms for most cabinets (the few that were visible). The galley (kitchen) was very nice, stainless and granite was everywhere. We would later learn that these smaller boats are designed for weekenders. People who only use the boat on the weekend, perhaps show one time, if at all, and are apparently all height challenged.

    On to our next boat. The next few boats we not near this one. In fact the boats 30+ feet we located clear on the other side of the venue. Once over there we glimpsed it! OMG there was a Azimut boat sitting right there! Well, now. We couldn’t just run up to her, we wanted to be able to say more about our love for past few weeks than, she’s pretty. After having looked at the last boat, we new then we had a lot to learn and the curve was going to be steep. So we treated this like a Xmas, opening our favorite present toward the end. Instead we went to the other lines of boats; Meridian, Sunset, and other manufacturers.

    Walking through, up and down, opening hatches peeking in cabinets, sitting and laying (where permitted) we started to form impressions. We could see the things we liked, the things that made sense to our land lubbing side, but we still had no context for the boat that floats. These are the things we began to THINK about as we walked through our first boat show.

    Head size. Could I fit in the door without having to squeeze in? Was the toilet the size of a tonka toy or did it look like it might be worthy of actual duty?Was If the shower was separate, could you fit in it. Turn around bend down.

    Galley/Eating. Was it separate from the common areas, or was it inclusive. Did it have multiple burners on the stove? Was there a full size fridge and sink or smaller versions. Was there a built in grill and convenient water dispensers in the other areas of the boat? How far was the dining area in relationship to the galley, was it up or downstairs or not.

    Lounge/Salon. Was it ample, affording more than one comfortable space to sit. Was there just a single lounging area or was there more than one? Was the area exposed to sun or under canopy? How many people could lounge at one time in or out of the sun. How difficult was it to lounge, did you have to be in the upper deck or only on the lower.

    Functionality. Was there an ample sized swim platform off the stern of the boat? Did the platform allow easy access to the boat, or where there more stairs to negotiate? Were the controls (bridge) easy to get to from the lounging areas, from the galley, or was there easily a 30 second run? How easy was it to reach the bow of the boat? Were the handrails for walking on the bow, or were you supposed to figure it out? How steep were the steps, did it have a fly bridge, or not, how many floors.

    Engines. Huh?? Well we know nothing about these. So, for now we just looked at the boats themselves, and at the engine compartment. Our questions were simple in this area; how many were running this thing, and where they gas or diesel, and where was the compartment for the engines.

    Finally, we were ready to board the Azimut. She has a fly bridge and very,  Italian styling. She is a modern beauty with a price tag to prove it all.

    She was a beauty outside and in. But she was a Euro beauty. She was missing all of the American touches, no TV in every quarter, high end paneling on the walls, cryptic instrumentation, she was lacking luxury in a lot of places. We sagged at this revelation. Our American prejudices were showing through, but there was nothing we could do about that.